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    Fake ID for Table Games

    I have heard conflicting things about obtaining a players card under a fake ID. What are things that you need to be concerned about? Also what are my legal rights, (if any) if I should get caught by the casino? I have been an AP for quite some time, but this is the first time I am delving into the world of using fake ID's. I will not be using them for machine play.

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    Nearly all on-line vendors of fictitious I.D. are bogus.

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    If you get a player card using a fake ID and then lock the fake ID away off site before you start playing and don't use any comps or other marketing offers (i.e., just use the card to play and never bring the fake ID back into the casino ever) the legal risk to you is low to non-existent. You are free to use whatever name you want when you play. If you use the fake ID to redeem comps and other marketing offers the legal risk starts to go up....even if you're not a machine player.

    It can be argued that marketing offers you receive are earned by you regardless of what name you use (or how many names you use). The casino (and often their law enforcement friends) will argue that it's fraud or worse. Either way, lawyers and considerable legal expense may be involved. Criminal defense attorneys are notoriously expensive. (Hash Tag Billable Hours)

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    Originally Posted by BlackjackFeign
    I have heard conflicting things about obtaining a players card under a fake ID. What are things that you need to be concerned about? Also what are my legal rights, (if any) if I should get caught by the casino? I have been an AP for quite some time, but this is the first time I am delving into the world of using fake ID's. I will not be using them for machine play.
    It's complicated, but in general, just possessing a fake government ID is illegal. Playing under a fake player's card is legal. Redeeming comps on the fake player's card is illegal. If you're caught with a fake player's card, they can 86 you--your rights are the same as any other AP. If you are caught redeeming comps under a fake name, they can detain you until the police arrive. If you are caught with a fake ID, consult an attorney in your state.

    I think it would be smarter just to go to the slots, pick up a lost card, use that, and then toss the card. If you're caught, 'I can't use my friend's card?'

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    Originally Posted by Boz
    "pick up a lost card, use that, and then toss the card. If you're caught, 'I can't use my friend's card?'"
    A card holder's picture, DOB, etc. is in the data base.
    When you are caught because you are 27 yrs. old and
    the (legit) card holder is 65 you will be in trouble,
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    Furthermore, if you NEED a Social Security Number
    to get a hand-paid jackpot, including a BIG bonus
    at a table game, or you have accidentally triggered
    a C.R.T. you will be in trouble beyond not getting paid.

    Note if you are found to have fictitious I.D. at a border
    customs stop or at an airport etc. you will wind up in jail.

  6. Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash
    A card holder's picture, DOB, etc. is in the data base.
    When you are caught because you are 27 yrs. old and
    the (legit) card holder is 65 you will be in trouble,
    unless you immediately present your 'real' ID

    Yeah, but it seems like they usually just swipe the card without looking at your bio. This doesn't seem any different than having someone get a card for you to abuse, and it's preferable to breaking the law, IMO. I guess if you're saying it doesn't work very well, then it probably isn't worth doing.

    Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash


    Furthermore, if you NEED a Social Security Number
    to get a hand-paid jackpot, including a BIG bonus
    at a table game, or you have accidentally triggered
    a C.R.T. you will be in trouble beyond not getting paid.

    No you wouldn't. They have to pay you. Breaking player's card rules is no basis for the casino to commit larceny. But, in such situations, you would have to give them your proper credentials and possibly get 86ed.


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    Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash
    Yes, BUT with proper I.D. and Social Security Number.
    I'm not following. You'd have to present the same credentials if you used a fake ID to obtain your own unique fake player's card. Are you advising against using a fake player's card in general?

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    here is a simple example for you.

    You decide to play BJ with that side-bet re: queens.

    The Count is high as a kite so you drop a red chip on the side bet.

    The dealer and you have 3 suited Queens (or whatever it is.)

    The dealer summons the Pit Critter, who summons the Pit Boss.

    You are given a slip of paper directing the cage to promptly dispense

    $5,000 to you; only when you go to collect, a tax form is presented.

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    goes for Poker Tournament winnings that exceed $5,000. If you put in

    a bogus Social Security number, the computer rejects it and you'll not

    be paid. You will demand to see the Shift Manager. In his own sweet

    time s/he shows and tells you that you are no longer welcome in the

    casino. Tax Evasion is certainly a crime but the casino will not likely

    turn you in. You may want to get paid - so you admit the truth - and

    then you have exposed yourself as having played with fictitious I.D.

    The casino will trespass you and they MAY or may not pay you, as you

    played under false pretenses.

    If you simply ignore the big bonus, or walk away, you can be certain that

    you have "outed" yourself.

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    Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash

    If you put in

    a bogus Social Security number,
    Why would you do that? And how does using a fake ID to obtain a new fake player's card--instead of picking up a lost player's card, change this situation in the least? I'm still not following. It appeared you were advocating against picking up a lost card in favor of using a fake ID--but you're losing me.
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